A Spammer’s View Of Porn Stars
As you all know, I filter the comments aggressively. Anybody with a blog knows about automated comment spammers who drop various text nuggets designed to pass as real comments.
I thought this one was worth pulling out and sharing, because it appears to be human-written rather than purely machine generated (which is to say, it isn’t just random keywords slung together), and because its narrative is classic old-school bitch-slut-whore porn marketing, the sort of thing this sex blog exists in reaction against:
When it comes to porn bitches with big tits getting their cunts and asses stretched and stuffed by huge dicks and getting their faces and jugs covered by hot spunk, Ava Devine has almost no equal. A regular on [url deleted] and [url deleted], Ava is one cock loving, cum loving, fuck loving slut. Whether she’s getting double penetrated or just getting drilled by massive meat, I swear this girl’s pussy has seen more action in the dirt and taken more of a pounding than a U.S. Marine. What a whore. I really think that she, along with wonderfully like-minded souls Carmella Bing and Shyla Stylez, are among the leaders of the pack when it comes to no-frills, low glamour, raw, hardcore porn. Ava Devine loves fucking and really doesn’t give a fuck what people think. This bitch should be a hero. See the action for yourself at [url deleted].
I cannot deny that Ava is sexy, but whence the leap from that to bitch, slut, and whore? I always wonder what these guys are thinking. Is this how they really feel about porn stars? Or is it merely how they think their intended audience feels?
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This appalling comment is part of a strange trend in porn. Internet porn seems to have made a virtue out of subjugating and belittling women. Notice how sex almost seems like a punishent for the lady. What has she done!?In the days of video and magazine porn, it was never this bad. What lessons are we teaching young kids, who ARE looking at this stuff?!
I recently bought a porno from Comstock Films – This is real porn. Horny, victimless and egalitarian.
You know, generally speaking, I’m all in favor of reclaiming these sorts of words. I call myself a slut happily, and while I’ve never had physical sex for money, the people I know who have done so call themselves whores (or retired whores) with no problem.
But that is so not the tone I get from this. I can usually tell when someone’s calling me a slut as a compliment and when they’re not… and I’m sure as heck not feeling complimented by this.
And yet, the tone is such a weird mixed bag. It’s like it wants to be porn-positive and sex-positive — with all the stuff about “wonderfully like-minded souls” and how the woman in question “should be a hero” — but doesn’t know how. What a freakishly twisted mix of admiration/ desire for women’s sexuality and utter contempt for it.
Let’s just say that they won’t be in the front lines for the fight against the degradation of women. Or turnips, latex, or anything else that might even remotely be considered an object of desire.
So much of a person’s attitude boils down to simple fear. The spammer keeps himself at arm’s length from the porn star by name-calling. As with all weak souls, he wants and fantasizes about porn stars but wouldn’t know the first thing about communicating with or understanding one if she were to knock on his front door without sex on the agenda.
To him, porn stars aren’t human girls with families, homes and aspirations they don’t involve porn. They’re porn stars. And he likes porn.
It’s like they were trying to get all the “keywords” from a google porn search all into one post.
Yeah, Greta, I noticed the same thing, it wasn’t pure contempt, there was a sort of twisted sex-positivism trying to get out but being utterly thwarted by the 1970s-pornographer vocabulary. Some definite conflict there.
Reclaiming is a whole ‘nuther issue, and frankly I don’t think it’s something that a second-person labeler can participate in. A woman with the qualifications can call herself a bitch or a slut or a whore and not mean anything bad by it, but I don’t think some random guy selling pictures of her has a prayer of pulling that off.
I thought it rather charming: an attempt to gather all the blood normally given to penile engorgement into that part of the brain processing language.
It sounded very dick-like, didn’t it?
I’d judge it a success.
It’s an odd thing to consider, this “freakishly twisted mix of admiration/ desire for women’s sexuality and utter contempt for it.”
Some say it’s “a man’s world,” but in other ways it could be seen as a woman’s world. In general, women can do anything they want sexually (in mainstream porn, ie. be bisexual) without “endangering” their female-ness, whereas a man who dabbles is somehow questionable. Not that I agree with these ideas, but why is it? Because women are more open-minded and lucky, or because they have nothing to lose?
The “bitch-cumgargling-whore” marketing approach seems to suggest the “nothing to lose” attitude. My common sense tells me that’s a pretty sad attitude towards women.
Yet, rationality or common sense don’t always rule people’s sexual choices. I was wondering to myself the other day what the appeal is for average consumers of some of the more extreme examples of porn. What is the fascination with watching people perform things that the watcher would probably never do themselves or with their partner? There is some appeal to the idea of (for example) “the woman who will do absolutely anything, even THAT!” Maybe the idea that someone else is willing to talk that dirty, to accept anything from the watcher, gives him or her hope that even his or her sexual desires will be acceptable to someone, somewhere.
A few people might think, “If she’s that stupid to let herself be called these things and to do these things, then she deserves what she gets.” Nice or not, what turns us on (or off) doesn’t have to make sense.
When it comes to sexuality and porn, sometimes you have to just shrug your shoulders and go look for something else that works a little better for you! ;-)
Shortly after arriving for a date with a woman (who was still having some child custody issues with her “ex”, after a messy divorce), I noticed that her mood was somewhat distracted, and not as stellar as our last meeting. I asked her if anything was wrong, and she said that her ex had called, and wanted her to voluntarily give him some extra custody time with her kids this weekend. She had already made special plans with them herself, and declined to acommodate him. In turn, he had called her a “lousy bitch” and she was having second thoughts about about her assertive decision, and asked me if I thought she was a “lousy bitch”. Not seeing anything inherently insulting in the word bitch (at least in this case…), I said “No honey, you’re not a lousy bitch, you’re a GREAT bitch!” For a split second, she didn’t get it. Her expression was like I’d just slapped her. Then, slowly she started to grin, gave a brief chuckle, and the rest of the weekend was quite enjoyable.
As for the word “whore”, sex workers who provide an honest service in exchange for monetary compensation don’t bother me at all. Although I never called her one to her face, my ex-wife who left me immediately after I experienced an unavoidable financial reversal, for a man of considerable wealth, is another matter altogether.
And when it comes to the word “slut”, I apply it to myself all the time. I don’t think it’s an insulting term at all. After spending a decade with a frigid “ex”, I only use it as a heartfelt high complement when applying it to women. I’ll take the “cumgargler” anyday thank-you-very-much.
I always feel insulted when I get spams advertising porn that use such terminology in a patently derrogatory manner to promote their wares.
I think it is much simpler. some people’s taste is sex that is obscene. You cant have obscene taboo sex with a lovely young woman. You have this kindof sex with the bitchslutwhore that your mother warned you off.
Maybe in real life people like it loving and sensual, but for the visceral carnal jerk, some guys I think need to be reminded of the guilt and revulsion (and excitement) they felt when they were 12 and checking out their first filthy magazines in the dirty alleys of their youthful memories.
er. that is.. its the badness that makes it good. (just like some people get into “dirty” like with peeing and stuff or taboo/incest)
The words: bitch, slut, whore, indeed have a formal (and usually insulting and degrading and misogynistic) meaning, for sure.
But that’s not what the spammer is interested in. The spammer is betting that the — clearly porn-consuming male, this would be a fairly bad bet with anyone else — target of the ad copy associates ‘bitch, slut, whore’, most strongly not with those formal meanings necessarily, but instead with all those warm fuzzy memories of turned-on-ness and orgasm, generated by all the other mountains of porn he enjoyed that shouted ‘bitch, slut, whore’ repeatedly while showing the good stuff. So when the target encounters the labels ‘bitch, slut, whore’ he gets the echoes of the promise of the warms fuzzies.
Spammer’s hoping that the rest of the ‘bitch, slut, whore’ slinging division of the porn industry has over the decades successfully trained up — just like Pavlov’s dog — enough of the porn consuming population with this particular word fetish, that it will up his response percentage significantly when he pushes those particular buttons in his copy.
Of a course, as a side-effect he simulataneously strengthens that fetish of association, for any wandering future porn promoters to exploit.
So, yes, the big question — is this fetish that’s been set up and maintained here for commericial advantage, just a fetish for the *words* ‘bitch, slut, whore’ in sexual contexts, which would mostly be merely annoying to those of other sensibilities, or instead a fetish for those other insulting, degrading and mysogynistic *meanings* that the words habitually carry, a thing which might arguably be an actual evil?
And my answers are, ‘I dunno’, ‘I guess it depends on the nature of the mind, and sanity, of the individual person being marketed at’, ‘Hopefully (a), but alas, you have to think it bleeds over a least a little into (b)’ and ‘Haven’t there been huge furiously angry feminist movement schisms over this question?’
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I agree with some of the above comments about the very nature of some of a guy’s first experiences with porn: that it is dirty, guilt-inducing past time that must be hidden from prying eyes. Something to be shameful about.
And calling the porn star a bitch, a cunt, and a whore is a way for one guilt-ridden porn-viewer to shift some of the blame to the porn star. It is Eve’s fault, not his, that he took a bite out of that apple. She tempted him. She is nothing more than a wicked temptress, a whore, a cunt, and a bitch.
Interesting. Inane writing customized for search engine optimization and all that geektastic stuff. The dark side of the Internet rearing it’s ugly, pornofied head.
“See the action for yourself at [url deleted].
Oh, and, Save The Whales.”
It’s just marketing. I’d be willing to bet it’s the second choice (how they think their intended audience thinks.) Although there may be some overlap… But a lot of people get into porn online because they think there’s a lot of money in it. (makes sense) Not necessarily because they are that into it.
It bothers me to no end to hear a woman called a bitch, whore or slut because she’s having sex. I’m not sure why it’s permissible for a man to enjoy fucking but if a woman enjoys fucking, sucking or any other permutation of sexual it somehow demeans her.